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Favorite combinations? Send in your comments like the following owners have... From: jack frost; jfrost@jackfrost.com; I installed a full flow oil
filter, cooler, plus an electric accusump in my 1966 912. I installed a 22 row, high quality oil cooler under the front left (opposite 911) wheel
well. Originally I chose an EMPI cooler, but they are junk and it fell apart before
I completed the installation. Porterfield (Costa Mesa, CA) has high quality oil coolers
for about $160, in addition to very good break pads. A simple home made bracket is
all that is needed to mount the cooler. I used 1.5" aluminum angle stock.
I also covered the cooler with stainless steel mesh (about 10 to the inch) to
protect the cooler from tire and road Debra. From: Dick & Flo; snyderrh@bright.net; Andy: From: Jim Cole; jecole@home.com; Andy, Good Luck on the rally! I'm
sure we're all pulling for you! From: Andy Daniels; ADanbeech@aol.com; I bought a '66 912 in the US back
in the summer and shipped it here to the UK. I am currently in the process of
preparing it to run in the historic winter challenge to Monte Carlo (London - Monte Carlo
as done in the '60's). The car is fantastic and almost done but I thought I'd check
to see if you could provide the spec of the 912 used by Zasada, or tell me where I might
find it?
From: Rich Lambert; red912@acmenet.com; While setting up the braking
system on my '68 912 vintage racer I stayed, for the most part, with stock components. The
only non-stock items I used were stainless steel brake lines, Ate Blue brake fluid, and
Repco-Metal Master pads. The solid rotors and iron calipers are plenty strong enough for
the 912's weight, even in at racing speeds and I doubt vented and/or cross drilled rotors
and alloy calipers are vintage legal. From: Jim Ralston; KBR264@worldnet.att.net; I purchased the spacers, bolts, pins, seals and venter rotors from Porsche for a '67 911S and set my brakes up that way. Use Porterfield race pads and Motol fluid, have not added any ducting . The brakes have held up this way even running a 2hr endro last year. Jim Ralston 912 (built dec' 67) '68 model From: Oslund, Greg/SAC; goslund@CH2M.com; Attached [following] is an easy and accurate home method to measure toe-in. Several months ago I noticed that when cornering, if I hit a bump, the steering wheel would tug to the side. Also, it occasionally sounded like something was loose up front and it was clear that one of the dust boots was torn on the tie-rod ends. I decided that the tie-rod ends must not last much longer than 30 years and it was time to replace them. I had never done this before, but it looked easy enough. My only concern was adjusting the toe-in after I was done. Recently, I found an Internet post by Mike Piera that described a home alignment method developed by Pete Albrecht and it looked promising. Once I understood the method, I was confident that it would work. Before I replaced the tie-rod ends, I used the method to determine the existing toe-in setting as a baseline. Then, I replaced the ends and reset the toe-in to the specified setting. Based on my observations, I made some refinements to the method and took a stab at identifying the likely precision of the method. The method is shown below:
The inverse tangent, or tan-1, can be calculated using a scientific calculator. Example: You measure the width between the front marks (w1) at 55 1/16", width between rear marks (w2) is 55 3/8", and the tire diameter (d) is 24 ½". This indicates that the wheels are toe-in and the angle is: s = tan-1 ((55 3/8"-55 1/16")/(2*24 ½") = tan-1 (0.3125"/49") = 0.37° or 22 minutes Finally, lets discuss the required precision of your
measurements; first the measurement of tire diameter. Youll take this across the
tire, which has rounded edges, so youll be projecting the true diameter to the
measuring tape by sight. This is an opportunity for error, but luckily an error here
wont significantly affect the final result. For example, if I was a whopping
½" off on the diameter say I mis-measured it at 24", substituting in the above
example only changes the result by about 0.008° (0.5 minutes). So, dont stress the
diameter measurement. In fact, since we have so much room for error here we can develop
another formula that drops the need for the tan-1: Since tan-1 (1/2d) is approximately linear over a limited range of d, then we can substitute the following: s = (w2-w1) x (2.338-0.048d) Again, plugging in the measurements from the example we
get: From: Joe Russo; jarusso@CCGATE.HAC.COM; Rick, When I took
ownership of my 912 it already had a 1720 kit, reground cam and Weber carbs, so it was
already "hotter than stock." Since then, I have concentrated on trying to make
it breathe easier and burn better. I added K&N filters, a Crane CD ignition and a
Bursche exhaust.
From: Joe Russo c/o Ashley L Raiteri; ashley@vision-forge.com; Regarding the discussion of increasing tire width on 912s, I'm coming into the middle of this discussion, but hope that my experience with wider-than-stock wheel/tire combos will be helpful to someone out there. Like Rich Lambert I run 205-60-15s and have never had a problem with rubbing. On the street, although the car is not being street driven at the moment, I was using the aforementioned size on 5.5"x15" steel wheels. I then purchased a set of 6" and 7" x15" cookie cutters to be used as my race wheels. With 205-60-15 R1s on all four wheels I still have no problems with rubbing, even in the rear, and the extra inch of wheel width in the rear should be of benefit to me on the track. Joe Russo (from my freind's computer, so this isn't my real email address) Ashley Raiteri From: Rich Lambert; red912@acmenet.com; (Repost w/ RL OK); Subject: Re: 912 Wheels and Tires; If you want to go to a wider tire, get some of the wheel spacers that the '68's came with. Porsche added the spacers in 1968 to accommodate the 15"x 5.5" wheels, compared to the 15"x 4.5" wheels of previous years. With the spacers you should be able to run 195-60 tires. On my lowered '68 912 I have 205-60 R1's on 15"x 6" Fuchs and no clearance problems. Not all 912's are created equally though and some SWB cars can't fit 205's without rubbing........Rich Lambert From: Rich Lambert; red912@acmenet.com; Over the past two years I've tried a couple of different suspension set-ups on my '68 912 vintage race car. The first was new Boge shocks, a stock front sway bar, no rear sway bar, poly-graphite bushings, and slightly larger front and rear torsion bars (which should be included in any 912 suspension discussion). I was also running 195/60 Yokohama A008R's on 15x5.5 steel rims. This was a vast improvement over the stock set-up, however, I was experiencing the inside front tire lifting in corners. To try to counter this condition I installed this really trick adjustable front sway bar, it's a 19mm Weltweister bar with adjustable H & H levers and adjustable down links, and a shock tower brace. I also took the 15x6 Fuchs off my '73 911, shod them with new 205/60 BFG Comp TA R1's, and put them on the 912. This took about three seconds off my lap times, but I was still getting the tire lift. I queried the Porschefans e-mail list for advice and was told I needed a big rear sway bar. Bruce Anderson was one of the people who answered and was the only one who said that for some reason rear sway bars don't work well on SWB cars and I should go with bigger (26mm) rear torsion bars instead. I weighed the alternatives: one hour to bolt on the sway bar or days of dismantling my entire rear suspension and plunging into 'leveling the car' hell again with non-adjustable spring plates, and then another $140 race alignment. Needless to say I ignored the advice of one of the worlds most eminent Porsche experts and bought a 22mm Weltmeister rear sway bar...it didn't do any good at all, it sure looked cool though. This is where I am at present. This spring I'm going to rebuild the whole suspension, adding 26mm "Turbo" rear torsion bars (the 22mm sway bar is going on the LWB 911) and some adjustable spring plates. I'll keep you posted as to the results. Rich Lambert From: Eric Nichols; Eric_Nichols@email.msn.com; I have
successfully autocrossed and time trialed my 1967 912 for ten years, and feel that most
performance gains have been due to suspension/handling improvements. My setup includes: The other measurement, the width between the tacks, is taken between two distinct marks accurately transferred to the floor using the plumb bob. If you are careful with this measurement, you shouldnt be off by more than 1/8". Substituting this error into the above example changes the final result by 0.14° (8.5 minutes), which in my judgement is still acceptable. To minimize error you should hang the plumb bob over each of the tacks the same way when transferring the marks to the floor. Let the plumb bob settle down before making the mark on the floor. Take duplicate readings to assure repeatability. Use the same tape measure for all measurements. Start the measurement at the 2" mark, so you dont rely on the tape-end, which has play in it. If you do the very best you can, you should be able to achieve acceptable accuracy. |
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